This entire situation might be indicative of the dysfunction of the NY State Democratic Party. They should have been able to BURY this creep using Oppo research. But they didn't. Yes, it was a tough media environment given the racist "crime" signaling that the GOP used. But this guy is the REAL crook, and it's clear he's been running wild for long time. This is just one more data point that the NY state Democratic party needs to get its shit together. Losing 4 House seats is a disgrace, and no whining about losing in court should be accepted. They overplayed their political hand, lost in court, and then were whupped at the polls. The party got fat and lazy.....and lost. *SIGH!*
Nothing I can add to this. I currently live in New York 04, but I used to live New York 03, I’m appalled and I am frustrated. I did call your show yesterday and you gave me the ability to vent my frustration with the New York State democratic chair person, Jay Jacobs. There was zero effort to help Robert Zimmerman, who was an amazing candidate, there was zero effort to educate the public about the dangerous candidate that Santos was. As of this morning, I’ve contacted the New York State democratic chair again, the Nassau County Democrats again. The failure of the NYS democratic party is why we lost the House, Jacobs needs to be removed, and Santos needs to be indicted. There needs to be a special election.
So it seems the DCCC did do this research and went to some news organizations that did not run with the story. What’s the answer to that? Also I believe you when you say that the Dem party is not strong there but I am curious why the press and the republicans themselves don’t get the blame here?
Because there is more to it than just bringing it to the news media- this information should have been tattooed all throughout Queens and Nassau. It was the job of the democratic party and chairman to make sure that everybody knew this information. They failed
I think that’s a fair criticism, but I would hardly place the blame solely on them for this failure. I think that let’s the media as well as the RNC off the hook way to easily. Of course we can say that “republicans are crooks, of course they would do this” but that is to their benefit. We should be holding them to account as much as if not more so than the dem party for not doing enough to make sure this information was not more widely available.
Did Zimmerman use this in any of his ads or public messaging (real question I don’t know the answer to). If not is that also the fault of the dem part chair?
I’m flabbergasted by The NY Times article about Mr. Santos and his resume. What I am most confused by is why the article is coming out on December 19, 2022, well after the 2022 election. Not one legitimate news outlet (or his Democratic opponent, Mr. Zimmerman) looked closely at Mr. Santos’ credentials for a story that could have been published BEFORE the 2022 election?? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Voters in his district could have made a more informed decision had someone ... anyone focused on his credentials.
Some points: the role of the DNC needs to be considered. Howard Dean introduced a 50 state strategy but since then, the DNC has been abandoned to "consultants" and failed candidates like the current chair, a very poor choice by Joe Biden. The state parties are largely failures (with notable exception of Ben Wikler's Wisconsin). And the fetishization of identity politics and renewed anti-Semitism allowed a "Santos" to be chosen over a "Zimmerman." The implications of the loss of the House was never adequately explained to the American public. Of course, the chief miscreant in this mess is the Attorney General, who could have charged those responsible for Jan 6 at least a year ago. As ex-Congressman Riggleman (you should have him as a guest) explained on Deadline White House, the "election deniers" are still fully present in the House of Reps.
In his forced retirement, Sean Patrick Maloney must be kept far from any levers of power after his debilitating defeat this fall. This may be the worst performance by any DCCC ever. And Jay Jacobs has got to go, too: I've seen his name tagged with "NY State Democratic chair" for eons, and his performance this cycle is terrible. Run a Google check on your opponents, people, then run a background check.
Not even sure that this lying in POS is LGBT, but if he is, give the Repubs credit for being inclusive enough to welcome yet another addition to the family slop jar, along w/ "Gays Against Groomers" & LCR. 🙄🙄🙄
The mere fact that New York is sending another POS to Washington is a sign of the sheer degradation of the term Public Servant. The good news is that a Federal background check should relieve us of this living excrement. You can also add that the velvet mafia rescinded his gay card after the first dry run for office...
Just one more example that Republicans don’t care about their lawless conmen being part of their party. As long as they win, they don’t care who is elected.
Typical Repugnican thievery. Looks like ageism to me. Let's hope the Dems can reclaim this seat and further stop the MAGA morons platform, or lack thereof!
The GOP has morphed into a criminal empire, filled with the lowest form of 2 legged creatures on the planet. We'd better off with the cosa nostra running the parry. At least they only hurt their own kind.
I couldn’t agree more with the analysis. Talk about dropping the ball. The notion that anyone would completely fabricate almost everything on a resume & no one was interested in that being a story underscores what a sad state of affairs the NY State Democratic Party is in. Sounds like the media and the campaigns for both candidates share responsibility. If that word has even any meaning at this point. Societally we are numbed to the absurd amount of lying that MAGA Republicans primarily will resort to. At the end of the day when facts are deemed irrelevant and an inconvenience what voters are left with are buffoons , cretins and power grabbers at any cost ie Bobo, MGT and Santos who traffic in lies, bigotry and misinformation. On a positive note the comments in response to the Santos article are delicious
Apparently the DCCC DID do the research and publicized it and the media ignored it. I am not saying that should have been the end of it but everyone saying the dems needed to bury this guy should understand that point as well. Let’s point the ire in the right direction and stop doing the republicans job for them but pooping on our own party.
That is not the media’s job. They report, it was the Dems responsibility to cite OVER AND OVER again who this guy was. Think about TFG and how he branded people. Sleepy Joe, Lyin Ted- the Santos info should have been pounded into our heads
I follow and somewhat agree with your sentiment, if not you intensity with respect to the Dem party not being fervent enough. However did the media even report it?
Were there any stories about this before this NYT piece? It’s not that I don’t agree with you, I just believe the ire is somewhat misplaced but I no longer live in NYC but grew up in Nassau County.
I hear you and understand what you’re saying. But here’s the rub, Jay Jacobs has continually lost democratic seats since the 2019 election. Laura Curran, Nassau County executive,  lost her election in 2021 because Jacobs was too distracted, that a progressive won the Democratic nomination in Buffalo New York. He decided to waste his time on, making sure she was unable to win, therefore, ignoring Curran, who lost by 2000 votes. Again, there was no get out the vote strategy, no plan, no outreach. Curran left with a surplus in the budget
I’m sorry, to answer your question, I am not aware of any media story that covered the Santos scandal Prior to the election. This would’ve been great if we had read this article in August. 
Yeah it sounds like there is enough blame to go around honestly. That whole situation with Buffalo was pretty appalling, I didn’t know that Jay Jacobs was involved with that at all but I do know that the dem establishment was not particularly pleased with that race so definitely there is some house cleaning to do.
However I still put a lot of blame on the media since there was indeed work done to uncover this but it was deemed not worthy of significant coverage at that time. Dems should have had their hair on fire but I wonder if that would have made a difference either.
I think the media liked the idea of tight races and this would have been yet another story of Republican malfeasance and they may have thought “enough with that already” to the detriment of the public.
This entire situation might be indicative of the dysfunction of the NY State Democratic Party. They should have been able to BURY this creep using Oppo research. But they didn't. Yes, it was a tough media environment given the racist "crime" signaling that the GOP used. But this guy is the REAL crook, and it's clear he's been running wild for long time. This is just one more data point that the NY state Democratic party needs to get its shit together. Losing 4 House seats is a disgrace, and no whining about losing in court should be accepted. They overplayed their political hand, lost in court, and then were whupped at the polls. The party got fat and lazy.....and lost. *SIGH!*
Nothing I can add to this. I currently live in New York 04, but I used to live New York 03, I’m appalled and I am frustrated. I did call your show yesterday and you gave me the ability to vent my frustration with the New York State democratic chair person, Jay Jacobs. There was zero effort to help Robert Zimmerman, who was an amazing candidate, there was zero effort to educate the public about the dangerous candidate that Santos was. As of this morning, I’ve contacted the New York State democratic chair again, the Nassau County Democrats again. The failure of the NYS democratic party is why we lost the House, Jacobs needs to be removed, and Santos needs to be indicted. There needs to be a special election.
I totally agree with your analysis.
So it seems the DCCC did do this research and went to some news organizations that did not run with the story. What’s the answer to that? Also I believe you when you say that the Dem party is not strong there but I am curious why the press and the republicans themselves don’t get the blame here?
Because there is more to it than just bringing it to the news media- this information should have been tattooed all throughout Queens and Nassau. It was the job of the democratic party and chairman to make sure that everybody knew this information. They failed
I think that’s a fair criticism, but I would hardly place the blame solely on them for this failure. I think that let’s the media as well as the RNC off the hook way to easily. Of course we can say that “republicans are crooks, of course they would do this” but that is to their benefit. We should be holding them to account as much as if not more so than the dem party for not doing enough to make sure this information was not more widely available.
Did Zimmerman use this in any of his ads or public messaging (real question I don’t know the answer to). If not is that also the fault of the dem part chair?
I’m flabbergasted by The NY Times article about Mr. Santos and his resume. What I am most confused by is why the article is coming out on December 19, 2022, well after the 2022 election. Not one legitimate news outlet (or his Democratic opponent, Mr. Zimmerman) looked closely at Mr. Santos’ credentials for a story that could have been published BEFORE the 2022 election?? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Voters in his district could have made a more informed decision had someone ... anyone focused on his credentials.
Some points: the role of the DNC needs to be considered. Howard Dean introduced a 50 state strategy but since then, the DNC has been abandoned to "consultants" and failed candidates like the current chair, a very poor choice by Joe Biden. The state parties are largely failures (with notable exception of Ben Wikler's Wisconsin). And the fetishization of identity politics and renewed anti-Semitism allowed a "Santos" to be chosen over a "Zimmerman." The implications of the loss of the House was never adequately explained to the American public. Of course, the chief miscreant in this mess is the Attorney General, who could have charged those responsible for Jan 6 at least a year ago. As ex-Congressman Riggleman (you should have him as a guest) explained on Deadline White House, the "election deniers" are still fully present in the House of Reps.
In his forced retirement, Sean Patrick Maloney must be kept far from any levers of power after his debilitating defeat this fall. This may be the worst performance by any DCCC ever. And Jay Jacobs has got to go, too: I've seen his name tagged with "NY State Democratic chair" for eons, and his performance this cycle is terrible. Run a Google check on your opponents, people, then run a background check.
Santos assumed that if a criminal and con man like Trump can run for office, then he can too.
very true! they all feel emboldened.
Not even sure that this lying in POS is LGBT, but if he is, give the Repubs credit for being inclusive enough to welcome yet another addition to the family slop jar, along w/ "Gays Against Groomers" & LCR. 🙄🙄🙄
The mere fact that New York is sending another POS to Washington is a sign of the sheer degradation of the term Public Servant. The good news is that a Federal background check should relieve us of this living excrement. You can also add that the velvet mafia rescinded his gay card after the first dry run for office...
There is something seriously wrong with our political system when an out and out liar can get into & remain in office. He’s not going to resign!
Just one more example that Republicans don’t care about their lawless conmen being part of their party. As long as they win, they don’t care who is elected.
So, what will happen? Most likely nothing.
Typical Repugnican thievery. Looks like ageism to me. Let's hope the Dems can reclaim this seat and further stop the MAGA morons platform, or lack thereof!
The GOP has morphed into a criminal empire, filled with the lowest form of 2 legged creatures on the planet. We'd better off with the cosa nostra running the parry. At least they only hurt their own kind.
I couldn’t agree more with the analysis. Talk about dropping the ball. The notion that anyone would completely fabricate almost everything on a resume & no one was interested in that being a story underscores what a sad state of affairs the NY State Democratic Party is in. Sounds like the media and the campaigns for both candidates share responsibility. If that word has even any meaning at this point. Societally we are numbed to the absurd amount of lying that MAGA Republicans primarily will resort to. At the end of the day when facts are deemed irrelevant and an inconvenience what voters are left with are buffoons , cretins and power grabbers at any cost ie Bobo, MGT and Santos who traffic in lies, bigotry and misinformation. On a positive note the comments in response to the Santos article are delicious
RCCC isn't going to do anything. Why didn't the DCCC do a search?
They did but there was little effort other than some attempts to share with media.
Apparently the DCCC DID do the research and publicized it and the media ignored it. I am not saying that should have been the end of it but everyone saying the dems needed to bury this guy should understand that point as well. Let’s point the ire in the right direction and stop doing the republicans job for them but pooping on our own party.
That is not the media’s job. They report, it was the Dems responsibility to cite OVER AND OVER again who this guy was. Think about TFG and how he branded people. Sleepy Joe, Lyin Ted- the Santos info should have been pounded into our heads
I follow and somewhat agree with your sentiment, if not you intensity with respect to the Dem party not being fervent enough. However did the media even report it?
Were there any stories about this before this NYT piece? It’s not that I don’t agree with you, I just believe the ire is somewhat misplaced but I no longer live in NYC but grew up in Nassau County.
I hear you and understand what you’re saying. But here’s the rub, Jay Jacobs has continually lost democratic seats since the 2019 election. Laura Curran, Nassau County executive,  lost her election in 2021 because Jacobs was too distracted, that a progressive won the Democratic nomination in Buffalo New York. He decided to waste his time on, making sure she was unable to win, therefore, ignoring Curran, who lost by 2000 votes. Again, there was no get out the vote strategy, no plan, no outreach. Curran left with a surplus in the budget
I’m sorry, to answer your question, I am not aware of any media story that covered the Santos scandal Prior to the election. This would’ve been great if we had read this article in August. 
Yeah it sounds like there is enough blame to go around honestly. That whole situation with Buffalo was pretty appalling, I didn’t know that Jay Jacobs was involved with that at all but I do know that the dem establishment was not particularly pleased with that race so definitely there is some house cleaning to do.
However I still put a lot of blame on the media since there was indeed work done to uncover this but it was deemed not worthy of significant coverage at that time. Dems should have had their hair on fire but I wonder if that would have made a difference either.
I think the media liked the idea of tight races and this would have been yet another story of Republican malfeasance and they may have thought “enough with that already” to the detriment of the public.
https://twitter.com/ortegachili/status/1604870492338262017?s=46&t=s8bPTu7DbnlDLWKkZ3AQIQ