After years of support for LGBTQ people, Target didn't even make an attempt to push back. It should have learned from Disney that bowing to haters only emboldens them.
I can’t believe how lame and abysmal Targets response has been. With their billions of dollars in profits no one in upper
Management has figured out to call the police, have the “liberty terrorists” removed and post no trespass orders and use social media to expose the participants. WTF. Total BS. Clearly they don’t give a sxxx. So the nonsense is only going to escalate until retailers put basic procedures in place. It ain’t rocket science
Where are the profiles in courage? People have fought and died for civil rights of all kinds, even with the threats of violence against them. Money is still most important to these corporations. Plus, many of them support the Republican agenda and contribute to their campaigns and to the court-packing with religious extremists.
Just goes to show you how fair weather Allie’s function. Similar to fair weather friends and family. So now a pattern is established between Disney, Annhauser-Busch and now Target. You are 100% on the mark. The other elephant I’m the room is the more shrieking and yelling about how dangerous drag queens and books are to children, the more I keep reading about Republican elected officials being arrested, indicted or resigning for the vey conduct they’ve been accusing drag queens of. Wonder why so little attention is being given to this. Hopefully a light can be shine on this not so coincidental pattern emerging all over the country. The louder they scream the more scandals I’m reading about. I think it’s time for the national media too focus on that rather than the shiny objects
Except it doesn't actually happen to children. Why don't you try talking to some actual trans people instead of believing Matt Walsh's made-up hate speech?
See, I actually have a handful of friends, both online and IRL, who are trans. Talking with them helped me understand how transitioning actually works and how it's not "children being groomed and mutilated" like you're being brainwashed to believe.
Yes there are regrets, but it's very few and far between. Again, why don't you just talk to some actual trans people?
Would like to like this article but still seething after the Target CEO interview earlier this week or late last week professing his support. Gotta go by Walmart to ascertain if their sneeze and you'll miss it Pride display is still there. One wonders if corporate America realizes the old adage of disposable income is actually true. I stopped going to Target when the Epson printer buy turned out to be too good to be true upon the first ink cartridges replacement. The Brother printer is sitting on top of the Epson box as a reminder and stand. This capitulation to domestic terrorists can be avoided by going to the store's video and prosecuting the offenders. My worry is the emboldened nazis subsequent publicity is a membership drive...
What I do not understand is how any citizen who complains about Drag or LGBTQ issue has a greater right to Free Speech than other citizens?? Y’all really need to file a class action 1A lawsuit. If religious activities are being pushed as protected speech then so can a protected class of citizens who qualify under discrimination laws.
Why are corporations caving into to Fascism? Do we have to replay the 60's again? LGBT fought for their rights and we progressed. LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act. Now we're going backward. Do businesses think this is a good idea? Look at DeSatan! He's planning to take over the monorail in Disney and is tormenting Bob Iger, the CEO. I am thrilled that Disney is fighting back. Disney put Florida on the map and brings billions of dollars into Florida each year. DeSatan is playing with fire and so are the rest of the dictators running for president on the GOP ticket!
Regarding the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence (SPI). My initial take on this was to side with banning the SPI; for, despite their denials, they did have their origins, in part, as mocking the Catholic Sisterhood.
However, I also consider the philosophy of Dante. In the Inferno, he placed, in the lowest rings of hell, not those who indulged in, say, prostitution, but those who abused reason (e.g., bankers, lawyers, politicians, etc.)
Along those lines then, the Catholic Church, despite its many faults, never objected to the presence of the SPI at Dodger Stadium -- politicians did, led by Rubio (likely competing with DeSantis on who could be more hateful).
Since the initial objections were not based in religious fervor, but in political extremism, and since the Catholic Church never objected, I eventually sided with the SPI, and consider the initial objections of the political right, to be evil: an abuse of reason.
Having worked in retail for a decade, I know firsthand how scary a situation like this can be. At times, you feel like your life is being threatened, and in many ways, it is. In our extract capitalist, apartheid state, retail workers - which often employs college kids, Black, brown, Indigenous, and yes, queer and transgender people - are seen as servants, to be shoved around at will. I was married to someone who refused to go to the store on a Saturday (the "true Sabbath") because "I'm making other people work for me." This is how everyone, religious and non, sees retail workers. It's easy to sit here, on a computer, with little or no retail experience, and say "Target should have just stuck to their guns." In retail, nothing is straight forward. That being said, I do think, in light of this reality, Target should pull the merchandise and displays temporarily, and come up with a safety plan for their staff, working with local police (if they're willing to), and then reinstate the Pride merchandise and displays. That way, LGTBQA + rights, and the safety of the staff, are equally protected.
It was Ronald Reagan who I remember in my teens speaking very fiery words about terrorists. As in, we will not bargain with terrorists. Ever. On any terms. Rather, we will root you out and bring you to justice. Terrorism can be external or internal, but the response must be the same. Every president and prominent US politician I can remember in my life has held this position.
But he supported apartheid in South Africa, and murdered thousands in his delayed HIV/AIDS response because he saw it as "God's judgment" against "the gays." Reagan was a POS, with the blood of thousands on his hands, who didn't mind working with terrorists, or committing acts of terror itself, so long it advanced his dream of an extract capitalist, apartheid world. This position is bullshit!
No, no, no... I am not glorifying Reagan in any way. I have fuzzy memories of Carter, but Reagan is the first president I remember. That's all. From there, I cannot recall a president or high-elected official saying anything different.
But I do agree with the ultimatum that we will not negotiate with terrorists. We need to stick to that, but I agree with it.
I can’t believe how lame and abysmal Targets response has been. With their billions of dollars in profits no one in upper
Management has figured out to call the police, have the “liberty terrorists” removed and post no trespass orders and use social media to expose the participants. WTF. Total BS. Clearly they don’t give a sxxx. So the nonsense is only going to escalate until retailers put basic procedures in place. It ain’t rocket science
Where are the profiles in courage? People have fought and died for civil rights of all kinds, even with the threats of violence against them. Money is still most important to these corporations. Plus, many of them support the Republican agenda and contribute to their campaigns and to the court-packing with religious extremists.
Bob Iger, not Bob Igor. Igor was, however, one of the first Personal Assistants.
corrected, thanks -- a typo!
Just goes to show you how fair weather Allie’s function. Similar to fair weather friends and family. So now a pattern is established between Disney, Annhauser-Busch and now Target. You are 100% on the mark. The other elephant I’m the room is the more shrieking and yelling about how dangerous drag queens and books are to children, the more I keep reading about Republican elected officials being arrested, indicted or resigning for the vey conduct they’ve been accusing drag queens of. Wonder why so little attention is being given to this. Hopefully a light can be shine on this not so coincidental pattern emerging all over the country. The louder they scream the more scandals I’m reading about. I think it’s time for the national media too focus on that rather than the shiny objects
My cousin says that Drag Queens should not be allowed to read to children in libraries.
I asked him, "Why don't you do it?"
Silence.
They are doing what they accuse the left of doing (projection).
Absolutely
Only RW project all the unethical & criminal activities they do, onto the LW!
These radicals who hate rainbows want to carry AR-15's to schools, coffee shops and Targets...like that won't traumatize kids.
Except it doesn't actually happen to children. Why don't you try talking to some actual trans people instead of believing Matt Walsh's made-up hate speech?
I'm not reading your crap.
See, I actually have a handful of friends, both online and IRL, who are trans. Talking with them helped me understand how transitioning actually works and how it's not "children being groomed and mutilated" like you're being brainwashed to believe.
Yes there are regrets, but it's very few and far between. Again, why don't you just talk to some actual trans people?
Would like to like this article but still seething after the Target CEO interview earlier this week or late last week professing his support. Gotta go by Walmart to ascertain if their sneeze and you'll miss it Pride display is still there. One wonders if corporate America realizes the old adage of disposable income is actually true. I stopped going to Target when the Epson printer buy turned out to be too good to be true upon the first ink cartridges replacement. The Brother printer is sitting on top of the Epson box as a reminder and stand. This capitulation to domestic terrorists can be avoided by going to the store's video and prosecuting the offenders. My worry is the emboldened nazis subsequent publicity is a membership drive...
All of these new anti gay actions read as if something out of a book written before Stonewall
What I do not understand is how any citizen who complains about Drag or LGBTQ issue has a greater right to Free Speech than other citizens?? Y’all really need to file a class action 1A lawsuit. If religious activities are being pushed as protected speech then so can a protected class of citizens who qualify under discrimination laws.
Yes on the class action suit! It seems to be the way to get a corporation’s attention. We need to do something!
You betcha! RW are basically COWARDS!
Why are corporations caving into to Fascism? Do we have to replay the 60's again? LGBT fought for their rights and we progressed. LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act. Now we're going backward. Do businesses think this is a good idea? Look at DeSatan! He's planning to take over the monorail in Disney and is tormenting Bob Iger, the CEO. I am thrilled that Disney is fighting back. Disney put Florida on the map and brings billions of dollars into Florida each year. DeSatan is playing with fire and so are the rest of the dictators running for president on the GOP ticket!
Regarding the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence (SPI). My initial take on this was to side with banning the SPI; for, despite their denials, they did have their origins, in part, as mocking the Catholic Sisterhood.
However, I also consider the philosophy of Dante. In the Inferno, he placed, in the lowest rings of hell, not those who indulged in, say, prostitution, but those who abused reason (e.g., bankers, lawyers, politicians, etc.)
Along those lines then, the Catholic Church, despite its many faults, never objected to the presence of the SPI at Dodger Stadium -- politicians did, led by Rubio (likely competing with DeSantis on who could be more hateful).
Since the initial objections were not based in religious fervor, but in political extremism, and since the Catholic Church never objected, I eventually sided with the SPI, and consider the initial objections of the political right, to be evil: an abuse of reason.
My outreach to the homeless veterans this past weekend had a rubio rep there and I shot daggers at him at every opportunity...
Rubio could not care less. He even closed his office in Tampa a few years ago because too many protesters blocked the entrance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_boycott_of_Jewish_businesses
“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes” -Mark Twain
I was in a Pittsburgh Target yesterday and the Pride display was still there and the employees were wearing Target Pride t-shirts.
Having worked in retail for a decade, I know firsthand how scary a situation like this can be. At times, you feel like your life is being threatened, and in many ways, it is. In our extract capitalist, apartheid state, retail workers - which often employs college kids, Black, brown, Indigenous, and yes, queer and transgender people - are seen as servants, to be shoved around at will. I was married to someone who refused to go to the store on a Saturday (the "true Sabbath") because "I'm making other people work for me." This is how everyone, religious and non, sees retail workers. It's easy to sit here, on a computer, with little or no retail experience, and say "Target should have just stuck to their guns." In retail, nothing is straight forward. That being said, I do think, in light of this reality, Target should pull the merchandise and displays temporarily, and come up with a safety plan for their staff, working with local police (if they're willing to), and then reinstate the Pride merchandise and displays. That way, LGTBQA + rights, and the safety of the staff, are equally protected.
It was Ronald Reagan who I remember in my teens speaking very fiery words about terrorists. As in, we will not bargain with terrorists. Ever. On any terms. Rather, we will root you out and bring you to justice. Terrorism can be external or internal, but the response must be the same. Every president and prominent US politician I can remember in my life has held this position.
But he supported apartheid in South Africa, and murdered thousands in his delayed HIV/AIDS response because he saw it as "God's judgment" against "the gays." Reagan was a POS, with the blood of thousands on his hands, who didn't mind working with terrorists, or committing acts of terror itself, so long it advanced his dream of an extract capitalist, apartheid world. This position is bullshit!
No, no, no... I am not glorifying Reagan in any way. I have fuzzy memories of Carter, but Reagan is the first president I remember. That's all. From there, I cannot recall a president or high-elected official saying anything different.
But I do agree with the ultimatum that we will not negotiate with terrorists. We need to stick to that, but I agree with it.
Ah, you know, "Trust, but verify," didn't come from Reagan, but Suzanne Massie.
Anytime! I admire your work tremendously.