I will send out a notice but wanted to let you know we'll be doing another zoom chat and q and a, on Sunday nov 5th, earlier in the afternoon ET--with special guest Katherine Stewart, author of award-winning, "The Power Worshippers: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism" and we'll focus on the Christian nationalist threat, Trump and 2024.
The court should be legally obligated to perform the ceremony. If she is religiously opposed to do it, the court must hire a back up person who will. That sort of ruling would appease both sides. I wouldn’t want to be married by that beotch, anyway.
No one is forcing anyone to do anything in their private lives, but when a person works for the government, local, state or federal, there are laws that must be followed. If those laws personally affect a persons ability to do their job, they should look for something different. I don’t bring my personal beliefs into my work environment, neither should anyone else.
The Constitution clearly states Separation of Church and State. You should be happy you live in a country that allows you to spew your hate of others. You do you, and leave others alone. I don’t care what you do in your private life. Why do you care so much about what other people do? Stay in your lane.
I would love to see Thomas confronted with an attempt to overturn Loving vs Virginia. In particular I find his position on same sex marriage to be hypocritical pandering to extremists on the right. Who would, I imagine, be all to happy to get rid of that precedent as well. There are so many words I could describe Thomas with, most of them are too vulgar to write here.
Thank you for laying out the roadmap the Religious Right plans to use to invalidate our marriages. It's important for all of us to understand that once SCOTUS takes a case--as they are very likely to do in sympathy with Judge Hensley, silenced by the Intolerant Left (in their view)--nothing stops them from vastly expanding upon the case they've taken up.
Just because the Texas judge feels like her religious rights have been violated will not prevent the Radical Right Justices from correcting the Court's prior "mistake" in Obergefell, Windsor, Lawrence and Griswold. Everything that is legal now can be made illegal with the stroke of the Right's pen, wielded by Barrett, Thomas, Gorsuch, or Boof.
You are insulting and judging people you don’t even know because of who they are. They are not “perverts roaming the streets”, in fact 99% of those who are same sex couples are normal people working, loving and contributing to society in a positive way. They just want equal rights, not more rights. Save your bigotry for when you go to Church. No one is going after your kids. Only YOU are indoctrinating your children. God has nothing to do with free will, privacy and personal equal rights. In fact the majority of pedophiles and sexual deviant people are religious leaders and republicans.
I have been bracing for this ever since Thomas ominously stated that Obergefell would be next. And Texas is one of the most right wing courts in the country for their first legit whack at it. Sigh... You wrote a book about this in 2015- Its Not Over- and I wonder if it will ever be when it comes to bullying and demonizing LGBTQ
Here we go again having to fight for a right that was seemingly settled only for bigots to revive because as always there is more than one way to skin a cat. The religious exemption is one of the main drivers of certain segments of society that have deemed churches don't have to be attended. Just plain bigotry also is a factor. I was brought up in a church that decided the "Building Fund" was a way to fund politicians and thus my mistrust of the church as well. Those that doth protest too much will have to account for imposing their belief on others who did them no harm and violate some basic tenets of their own religion. How the separation of church and state has been degraded via the supremacist court is another war to be waged that once rethuglicans are washed away to the dustbins of history, will be waged...
Let's take up a fund raiser to place a "Interracial Marriage is not a real Marriage, because God says so" on a billboard near where Clearance Thomas lives. In a spot where he will see it everyday on his way to the court.
Unfortunately, we knew this was going to happen because after the Obergefell decision, these people said that if they couldn't get it overturned they were going to treat it like Roe v Wade and have it die a death by a thousand cuts.
This is why my wife and I traveled 12 hours to get married in Vermont. A state we felt confident would not over throw our marriage as a same sex couple if the Supreme Court reversed decisions.
If I were in charge of a Red state looking to get out of the Gay Marriage business, I would pass a law putting one state official in charge of ALL marriage licenses. And then appoint to the position a person whose religion prohibits them from endorsing marriages between a man and a man, or between a woman and a woman.
Only man/woman marriages would be permitted. Licenses for any other applicants would be denied.
This made my blood run cold. We live in NC which, while having pockets of blue (Mecklenburg and Wake counties) the vast majority of the state is red. I can see this happening here too. We have friends who live in a very conservative county and were refused a license by the county clerk. They were forced to go to a different county to get married.
The only thing we have going for us is that limiting suffrage is extremely difficult to do because you basically have to amend the Constitution and that's a near impossible process.
NC too. We have a Congressman named Jeff Jackson who’s district was pretty much nuked into oblivion by gerrymandering. He’s a pretty amazing man and his new district is totally republican. He’s probably done in Congress which sucks.
Me too. I live in Indiana which is a red state. Unfortunately, some of these changes may require a change the state constitution which isn't as easy to do in some places.
I will send out a notice but wanted to let you know we'll be doing another zoom chat and q and a, on Sunday nov 5th, earlier in the afternoon ET--with special guest Katherine Stewart, author of award-winning, "The Power Worshippers: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism" and we'll focus on the Christian nationalist threat, Trump and 2024.
The court should be legally obligated to perform the ceremony. If she is religiously opposed to do it, the court must hire a back up person who will. That sort of ruling would appease both sides. I wouldn’t want to be married by that beotch, anyway.
No one is forcing anyone to do anything in their private lives, but when a person works for the government, local, state or federal, there are laws that must be followed. If those laws personally affect a persons ability to do their job, they should look for something different. I don’t bring my personal beliefs into my work environment, neither should anyone else.
How did the troll comment on this thread? He paid to be in our group???
I don’t know, but he has been blocked and his posts deleted.
Yep, I did that!
The Constitution clearly states Separation of Church and State. You should be happy you live in a country that allows you to spew your hate of others. You do you, and leave others alone. I don’t care what you do in your private life. Why do you care so much about what other people do? Stay in your lane.
Tim did you get lost on your way to a Trump rally? Take your religious bigotry somewhere else, please.
Plzzz! We don’t need to see this assholes picture at the top of your column.
Ha -- okay, fair point! I changed it. It is mostly a lot about him and his agenda. But I know the justices photos can be traumatizing!
I would love to see Thomas confronted with an attempt to overturn Loving vs Virginia. In particular I find his position on same sex marriage to be hypocritical pandering to extremists on the right. Who would, I imagine, be all to happy to get rid of that precedent as well. There are so many words I could describe Thomas with, most of them are too vulgar to write here.
Thank you for laying out the roadmap the Religious Right plans to use to invalidate our marriages. It's important for all of us to understand that once SCOTUS takes a case--as they are very likely to do in sympathy with Judge Hensley, silenced by the Intolerant Left (in their view)--nothing stops them from vastly expanding upon the case they've taken up.
Just because the Texas judge feels like her religious rights have been violated will not prevent the Radical Right Justices from correcting the Court's prior "mistake" in Obergefell, Windsor, Lawrence and Griswold. Everything that is legal now can be made illegal with the stroke of the Right's pen, wielded by Barrett, Thomas, Gorsuch, or Boof.
I would like to know how same sex marriage affects you and your daily life. This is an honest question.
You are insulting and judging people you don’t even know because of who they are. They are not “perverts roaming the streets”, in fact 99% of those who are same sex couples are normal people working, loving and contributing to society in a positive way. They just want equal rights, not more rights. Save your bigotry for when you go to Church. No one is going after your kids. Only YOU are indoctrinating your children. God has nothing to do with free will, privacy and personal equal rights. In fact the majority of pedophiles and sexual deviant people are religious leaders and republicans.
Thank you. I was in a relationship of a man for 24 years, until he passed, and believe me we had more important things to do than roam the streets.
I will never understand the intrusion into peoples love lives by religious bigots. If you are happy, I’m happy for you. That’s all it takes.
I have been bracing for this ever since Thomas ominously stated that Obergefell would be next. And Texas is one of the most right wing courts in the country for their first legit whack at it. Sigh... You wrote a book about this in 2015- Its Not Over- and I wonder if it will ever be when it comes to bullying and demonizing LGBTQ
Here we go again having to fight for a right that was seemingly settled only for bigots to revive because as always there is more than one way to skin a cat. The religious exemption is one of the main drivers of certain segments of society that have deemed churches don't have to be attended. Just plain bigotry also is a factor. I was brought up in a church that decided the "Building Fund" was a way to fund politicians and thus my mistrust of the church as well. Those that doth protest too much will have to account for imposing their belief on others who did them no harm and violate some basic tenets of their own religion. How the separation of church and state has been degraded via the supremacist court is another war to be waged that once rethuglicans are washed away to the dustbins of history, will be waged...
Let's take up a fund raiser to place a "Interracial Marriage is not a real Marriage, because God says so" on a billboard near where Clearance Thomas lives. In a spot where he will see it everyday on his way to the court.
Unfortunately, we knew this was going to happen because after the Obergefell decision, these people said that if they couldn't get it overturned they were going to treat it like Roe v Wade and have it die a death by a thousand cuts.
This is why my wife and I traveled 12 hours to get married in Vermont. A state we felt confident would not over throw our marriage as a same sex couple if the Supreme Court reversed decisions.
If I were in charge of a Red state looking to get out of the Gay Marriage business, I would pass a law putting one state official in charge of ALL marriage licenses. And then appoint to the position a person whose religion prohibits them from endorsing marriages between a man and a man, or between a woman and a woman.
Only man/woman marriages would be permitted. Licenses for any other applicants would be denied.
This made my blood run cold. We live in NC which, while having pockets of blue (Mecklenburg and Wake counties) the vast majority of the state is red. I can see this happening here too. We have friends who live in a very conservative county and were refused a license by the county clerk. They were forced to go to a different county to get married.
Sad that the religion of the minority is dictating law. Most people are not evangelical. What's next? Take away a woman's right to vote????
Yep that's kind of plan. They want to take away the vote of anybody that isn't going to vote for them that includes people under 25.
That's correct. Here in Florida, Dems have no chance. The state is gerrymandered to the max to ensure a GOP majority in each district.
The only thing we have going for us is that limiting suffrage is extremely difficult to do because you basically have to amend the Constitution and that's a near impossible process.
NC too. We have a Congressman named Jeff Jackson who’s district was pretty much nuked into oblivion by gerrymandering. He’s a pretty amazing man and his new district is totally republican. He’s probably done in Congress which sucks.
Me too. I live in Indiana which is a red state. Unfortunately, some of these changes may require a change the state constitution which isn't as easy to do in some places.