Michel, right on the money, unfortunately. While I do appreciate Mr. Powell for his military service, he did also do a great disservice for the military by allowing Cheney and Rumsfeld to railroad him into lying us into Iraq. The cost and toll in blood and treasure is insurmountable and has lead to the rise of ISIS and even more dangerous ideologies in what is the powder keg of the Middle East. His apology, I'm sure, did resolve his conscious somewhat, but I can't imagine how he must have felt about the monstrosity of his decision initially. May he rest in peace.
Funny how FAUX news wants us all to focus on anti-vax paranoia and sweep Colin Powell's lies about the Iraq war under the rug since that is what made them a shit-ton of money.
9 times out of 10 I agree with you, but on this I have to disagree. Well, one thing I agree with is the republican revisionist movement when it comes to facts and history. Colin Powell was more than just the Iraq War. He was a devoted, honorable American who came from nothing and eventually became Secretary of State. I don’t remember any other person in the failed Bush administration apologizing for the lies to start a dead-end War in Iraq. He went on to become a strong advocate for President Obama and President Biden. I would have actually considered voting for him if he had run for President. I think he would have been above all the Republicans stupid wedge issues like abortion, immigration and equal rights for POC and the LGBTQ community, and he would have made a great President. People in government make mistakes that cost lives and it is horrible and dangerous, but Powell, I believe, was an honorable American. He believed in this country and the morals and values we are fighting for right now.
I do believe he broke barriers and did some great things. There is no question he fought discrimination. But with regard to the Iraq War, he was pressured to do something that I believe he knew in was not right but did it anyway, and it did cost so many lives.
Once again the Media sucked up to the Republicans BS instead of being the real 4th estate and doing their jobs. Like Powell said himself, ( paraphrasing) he will have to live with his part in the Iraq lie. I just don’t believe it should be the the biggest part of his legacy. Just my opinion.
Shane, Powell was a military leader of impeccable credentials and had access to all the information. It is unfathomable that he didn't know that the intelligence was shaky or downright false --- we all knew, and we all questioned it as they never made the case. Even he never made the case at the UN. I believe he was pressured, and it was a difficult spot to be in, being the SOS of an administration with a vastly different idea of war -- he wanted to always have a large troop presence as he'd done in the past, for example, and Rumsfeld wanted to go skeletal, which cost lives as more men and women were sent in. I believe he knew there wasn't even information there for an invasion and that an invasion itself was fundamentally wrong and that it wasn't being executed properly. But he went along, lent his credibility to this horrible venture. It doesn't negate any good he did but it is a much bigger stain than the media has focused on.
Michel, right on the money, unfortunately. While I do appreciate Mr. Powell for his military service, he did also do a great disservice for the military by allowing Cheney and Rumsfeld to railroad him into lying us into Iraq. The cost and toll in blood and treasure is insurmountable and has lead to the rise of ISIS and even more dangerous ideologies in what is the powder keg of the Middle East. His apology, I'm sure, did resolve his conscious somewhat, but I can't imagine how he must have felt about the monstrosity of his decision initially. May he rest in peace.
Funny how FAUX news wants us all to focus on anti-vax paranoia and sweep Colin Powell's lies about the Iraq war under the rug since that is what made them a shit-ton of money.
Hey Mike,
9 times out of 10 I agree with you, but on this I have to disagree. Well, one thing I agree with is the republican revisionist movement when it comes to facts and history. Colin Powell was more than just the Iraq War. He was a devoted, honorable American who came from nothing and eventually became Secretary of State. I don’t remember any other person in the failed Bush administration apologizing for the lies to start a dead-end War in Iraq. He went on to become a strong advocate for President Obama and President Biden. I would have actually considered voting for him if he had run for President. I think he would have been above all the Republicans stupid wedge issues like abortion, immigration and equal rights for POC and the LGBTQ community, and he would have made a great President. People in government make mistakes that cost lives and it is horrible and dangerous, but Powell, I believe, was an honorable American. He believed in this country and the morals and values we are fighting for right now.
I do believe he broke barriers and did some great things. There is no question he fought discrimination. But with regard to the Iraq War, he was pressured to do something that I believe he knew in was not right but did it anyway, and it did cost so many lives.
Here's more from Eric Boehlert, and how the media allowed it to happen too, trusting in Powell.
https://pressrun.media/p/when-washington-post-lost-its-mind?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo1NTc3NzEsInBvc3RfaWQiOjQyODE1MjAyLCJfIjoiQkREY3oiLCJpYXQiOjE2MzQ3MzA3NTAsImV4cCI6MTYzNDczNDM1MCwiaXNzIjoicHViLTMzMTgiLCJzdWIiOiJwb3N0LXJlYWN0aW9uIn0.kiI7WxfImn32yKBObgtrcNSQp5pDqt54F-tktLjhBHw
Once again the Media sucked up to the Republicans BS instead of being the real 4th estate and doing their jobs. Like Powell said himself, ( paraphrasing) he will have to live with his part in the Iraq lie. I just don’t believe it should be the the biggest part of his legacy. Just my opinion.
Shane, Powell was a military leader of impeccable credentials and had access to all the information. It is unfathomable that he didn't know that the intelligence was shaky or downright false --- we all knew, and we all questioned it as they never made the case. Even he never made the case at the UN. I believe he was pressured, and it was a difficult spot to be in, being the SOS of an administration with a vastly different idea of war -- he wanted to always have a large troop presence as he'd done in the past, for example, and Rumsfeld wanted to go skeletal, which cost lives as more men and women were sent in. I believe he knew there wasn't even information there for an invasion and that an invasion itself was fundamentally wrong and that it wasn't being executed properly. But he went along, lent his credibility to this horrible venture. It doesn't negate any good he did but it is a much bigger stain than the media has focused on.
Here's more from Eric Boehlert, and how the media allowed it to happen too, trusting in Powell
https://pressrun.media/p/when-washington-post-lost-its-mind
I agree that it was a nasty comment he made. And I won't have that on this site. Thanks Shane.
no he should delete his, he was the one who was disrespectful --- I'll delete it.