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Jan 8, 2021Liked by Michelangelo Signorile

It has been brought up, and I agree with it completely, that because 5 people died in the commission of this felony murder charges must be brought against ever person who set foot illegally inside the building. These charges would also be brought against Don, Jr. and Rudy Giuliani for inciting the riot and therefore being complicit in all the consequences thereof. If you can bring them against Donald, so much the better.

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Jan 8, 2021Liked by Michelangelo Signorile

Absolutely! But I doubt Mitch McChinless and his ilk will complete the task just like previously. Too bad we won't have our majority until after the new president is inaugurated!

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Yes, I think we need to do it no matter what the GOP does -- and get them on record.

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I think Schumer should tell McTurtle that if he balks at helping now, any idea of equality and shared power as there was in 2001, is out the window.

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The refusal of the GOP to do anything about this concerns me. Sure, Lindsey G and McConnell spoke out, but big deal, when push came to shove, they were and still are cowards

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Agree!

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Congress needs to impeach his lard ass. They don’t need the Lapdog (Pence). He will not do shit. All these MoFos are so deep in the cult that won’t do anything, just like those idiots in Jonestown and Heaven’s Gate! Let Congress start the process, an emergency filing to protect the people and the U.S. from this man! This man is a national threat. No sugar coating for this incited, well-organized coup! Five people dead as of this morning, not to mention the ongoing deaths due to his mismanagement of C19! Start the impeachment and if the GOP still protect him, let the motherfucking GOP go down with him! Enough is enough with this fucking asshole!

The GOP will go as the stain on the carpet that can’t be removed, thrown away, as the Worst of the Worst in history, so be it. They own it and fucking deserve it!

For those cult followers resigning now, fuck them! They knew who this monster is!

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Absolutely. People have free will. They made a decision. Pay the consequences.

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Michelangelo - the way I see, if it was the other way around, BLM, LGBTQ, Hispanics, Jewish, Muslims, et al, and they tried to enter the U.S. Capital, armed/unarmed, dude, the police will not hold back and will shoot to kill! The GOP along with his master-cult-monster would be "It is what it is" right? No. Fuck the GOP and their Frankenstein. That's why we have laws in place and nobody should be above of it. They need to call an emergency session and impeach him. This man is and always will be a fucking monster. The GOP knows and stuck with them all this time! I also hope that Cruz and that douchebag from Missouri, Hawley along with fucking Giuliani and Flynn get referred to the FBI and the D.C. to face charges! There is no need for violence. For fuk sake we are the U.S. of America and we need to make an example that this shit will not be tolerated nor overlooked!

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He needs to be impeached now, put the vote through this weekend! The GOP is not going to invoke the 25th

because they are spineless.

I am even more pissed off after seeing photos of Trump et al partying in a tent while the insurrectionists were storming the Capitol. And I heard this morning that a thug pulled a Marquis de Sade in Chuck Schumer’s office which is beyond vile and disgusting.

Please don’t call these racists animals because animals are far more intelligent and behave better.

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Totally agree. Nancy Pelosi is not playing. She’ll show America, to the world that this shit is not going to be tolerated!

Sorry about cursing 🙁

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Impeachment looks to be the only way to respond to this now that coward Mike Pence who is afraid to even answer the phone let alone put his legacy on the line invoking the 25th.

My rep and senators are already on fire about this but anyone who hasn't contacted a wavering rep of theirs should do so now. This cannot go unanswered. Lots of damage can be done in these last days with no one in place to stop the madman.

Future politicians must see where following in his footsteps will lead. The best result of a successful impeachment is the restriction from ever holding office again. That takes him out of the mix in 2024 and also totally diminishes his power over the party in 22. That alone should inspire his party members to go along so their prospects improve.

Another vital part of the removal process is to finally rebuke incendiary speech that pols and conservative media types like to pretend isn't hurting anyone. Constant lying and invoking violent imagery has to stop.

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Yes, there need to ramifications even it's only the shame of being dragged through the process. We simply can't let it go with no response.

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Impeach this animal from the White House! Enough is enough! This is national emergency! This man conspire to overthrow an democratic elected government. This is not normal! Anybody who encourage and promotes violence should be prosecuted. We, as citizen, as people, we are never going to agree or be on the same page about anything or everything. It does not justify to start violence, in this given case to “attack” the U.S. capital, it is not acceptable. People died because of this man. Fuk the Republicans and his cult followers feeding that shit that impeaching him would “divide” the country! No, no, no. This was a predetermined coup to overthrow a democratic elected government. Whoever incites this behavior should be incarcerated, no fucking excuses! This man is a fucking monster and so are his enablers, followers, i.e. Flynn, Cruz, Douchebags Hawley /Trump Jr., Giuliani, the new asshole from Alabama, Tuberville, that fucking senator and Moscow Mule John Kennedy and the list goes on. Like I said, fuck the GOP and his enablers!

Take a moment to recall what happened to the “peaceful BLM and affordable care protesters and civil right activists” I don’t have Amnesia. I remember everything this fucking man and his enablers did to this country, to its citizens for the last four years! We have laws for reasons and nobody is above the law including the President!

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Looking to Mike Pence to grow a spine and do what is right for the nation is a fool's game. No wonder Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are going done that road first. Pelosi dragged her heels before starting impeachment hearings the first time and then rushed an incomplete case to a parisan and treasonous Senate, leaving out the majority of his crimes. Now, once again, rather than move decisively she sits on her hands and looks for others to do the work. Pence can invoke the 25th any time he wants, impeachment proceedings won't hinder that at all. I truly do not understand how anyone can consider her a decent leader, let alone Speaker. She has consistenely LOST seats during her terms as Speaker, losing the House once and almost doing so a 2nd time. She is one of the many reasons I changed my registration from Democrat to No Party Preference. While she, Schumer, Perez, and the rest of the anti-progressive wing of the Party hold power I am done with them.

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I hope I can share my thoughts here. They may antagonize some people. If so, be gentle on the rebuttal because I am not sure I will be able to convey this the way I wish.

I will be blunt: I feel a modicum of compassion for all the protestors who stormed the capital.

If you think that was bad, prepare for the next thought, but hold your anger until you hear me out.

The Constitution does open the door for the right of people to overthrow a tyrannical government.

These people truly think the government is tyrannical.

Now if they had ONLY stormed the Capital, I might have been even more compassionate in a remote and detached way.

For me, however, the issue was how they smiled when they did this. This smiling is not the mark of a true patriot or rebel overthrowing a tyranny. It is the mark of a child. THAT is what fascinates me the most. However, let me go deeper.

Consider the TV show, “Friends.” Who is the idiot on the show?

Ross – the scientist, the anthropologist.

Consider the movies of Steven Spielberg. In nearly every one of his moves, scientists and the government is the enemy.

Shonda Rhimes and “Scandal?” Sure, there are empowered gay, women and people of color, but her message remains: “evil forces run the government.”

So you have 70 million people who are struggling, while the super rich are milking the system, from Jeff Bezos to Elon Musk to Queen Elizabeth. The US is not a country. It is a bank.

Americans have been spoon fed a diet of mistrust of the government and science. And they truly (erroneously, yes, but sincerely) believe they must overthrow the government.

Trump is a clown who saw this and exploited it.

Is it any wonder we are at this point? Are we all complicit?

We have BLM, gay rights, cis-straight white men and women, trans people – we are all fighting each other, when the real enemy are the super rich who control us all, and set us against each other.

Yes, in a practical sense, these people who stormed the capital must be punished. However, I still have some compassion. They are hurt and angry and while they are mostly cis, straight white people they are people hurting nonetheless.

If we just go after them, and satiate our anger at the last four years, will we accomplish anything?

Or to put this another way, when I told my daughter: “This was an amazing seasonal finale to a four year show,” I consider her response:

“This is just the hook for next season.”

Be gentle -- I am not sure I even agree with myself.

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Jan 8, 2021Liked by Michelangelo Signorile

Look I can only tell you my visceral response, when I saw these cretins breaking windows and carrying the American flag, my blood boiled over. My father was a pilot in WWII in the Pacific and my brother served 4 years in Vietnam and died at 62 from multiple exposures to Agent Orange. He was denied disability payments for the last 4 years of his life and I received a letter two months after he died that he was approved. I definitely have my gripes with our government, but a violent takeover (as Rump ordered) is NOT the way we change our democratic system!

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I understand and I agree. Almost.

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Jan 8, 2021Liked by Michelangelo Signorile

I have zero compassion for the terrorists. They are incapable of logical thought and reasoning. I agree that we need to hold them accountable. And we need to go after every single link in this chain: politicians who incite violence, social media companies like Parler where the death threats are plenty, law enforcement that failed to prevent this (especially since all the threats were right out in the open on Parler and Facebook), etc.

It sounds like law enforcement leadership is already "going through some things" today. Hopefully other heads roll, especially the politicians. I won't hold my breath on that though.

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I agree. If I had to decide, I would want them punished. I would also agree that murder charges need to be leveled.

Still, I worry that it is not over and will get worse. Perhaps, practically speaking, this is one reason that punishment MUST be dolled out. Still, I am trying to search for more. Why did this happen?

Just blame Trump? Yes, yes, of course. But he is an idiot. I just fear we need to rise to a level higher than ourselves.

(Thanks for not being so angry as that other guy.)

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I spent all my anger on Cruz and Hawley on Twitter...so I got it out of my system ;-)

But yes, the main theme is that all involved think they can get away with this trash because there are no consequences for them. I am on the complete opposite end of the "Feinstein Hugging Graham" spectrum...people need to pay dearly. That's why I'm semi-happy with groups like Project Lincoln, MeidasTouch, and others with their video ads. These politicians need to be absolutely nuked from orbit with reminders of what they've done.

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I sort of agree...

I left the US almost ten years ago. We now live in Norway.

The week we arrived here, Anders Behring Breivik, a right wing, nut job, killed 80 students from the labor party.

He is in jail now, on an island, can go outside, and has his own room, bed, and three meals a day, along with monitored internet access.

Yes, some want him dead. Others here feel that everyone is human. The Norwegians are less about punishment and more about understanding why things happen. I like it here.

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Agree with understanding anything like this that happens. But then give it a swift kick in the ass!

We had a 9/11 commission. We got the Patriot Act. But we couldn't stop what happened on Wednesday?! Understand it, then destroy it.

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I agree with that.

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Jan 8, 2021Liked by Michelangelo Signorile

The Constitution provides changing the government, not violently overthrowing it as if a minority mob speaks for the nation, a nation that spoke loudly on November 3. The worst thing about all this is that we still have the Electoral College, extorted by the Slave States, to usurp the will of the people and force and unfit and incompetent man like Trump down our throats against the will of the people. It is moronic to think that these rioters are anything short of seditious traitors and if you support such action it puts you in the same category.

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Yes, I know that. These people don't. And they are infused with anger and indoctrinated.

And yes, I know they are seditious. Should we stop there? Or try to understand.

Because soon enough, a real fascist will rise to power -- one who had learned from Trump and is not an idiot.

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Jan 8, 2021Liked by Michelangelo Signorile

We understand them perfectly. They are traitors and should be shunned and watched just like we should have shunned and watched the Confederate soldiers who fought against the republic then created the KKK and Jim Crow. These are the people who will support the fascist you fear; doing so openly and happily. It is well past time to stop expecting them to be anything but what they are: domestic enemies of the United States.

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"We understand them perfectly."

Do we really?

Sure, the racists yes -- we have to draw lines there.

But the others? The conspiracy theorists? Do we really understand? Is it really as simple at Qanon?

If we did -- and this includes the vile police officers who let them through the barricades -- wouldn't the DC police have been prepared?

Yes, I know that Trump incited this. Yes, fire them all and bring them up on charges. But should we stop at doling out punishment?

"domestic enemies of the United States." Yes... a agree. and no. I don't. That woman served in the air force -- for almost ten years.

I wish it was as clear cut for me. I am afraid it is not

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They were part of an indurrection and that is treason. They are all traitors. It IS that simple. As for the woman's past servide, I don't forgive either Robert E. Lee OR Benedict Aronold (an actual hero before his treason) and feel no compassion towards her.

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"Forgiveness" is not the same as "Pre-emptive understanding."

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I have zero compassion. My fellow Black Americans have endured centuries of mistreatment. My great great grandmother was raped at the age of 14 by her slave master. (My great grandfather was the result of this, died when I was 8 and I loved him dearly).

Where was the compassion for what happened to her? Should she have just understood this was just the finale of a minstrel show? Instead she had to carry on with her life, suppressing her fear, anger and grief.

All of my uncles and my father served in the Army back in the day. I have a cousin who is a retired vet. They never disrespected the flag or our country.

I just can’t get in board with the protesters are like misunderstood children. They destroyed federal property and their intent was far worse. They need to be arrested and prosecuted by the law.

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in total agreement....why should I want to "feel compassion" for people that want me and mine dead? Fucc that, and fucc them....their 'mistrust' of the government and science is on them and their ignorance.....like has been said since the insurrection occured, if it had been BLM protestors, it would've been Tiananmen Square 2.0.

"The two most dangerous things on the planet are sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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I never said you should get on board. I never said they should not be punished. I don't know why this is such a confusing issue for people.

I am so sorry to hear how your family suffered.

I know suffering. I, myself, in a movie theater, when I was ten, was raped. It took me years to come to grips with it. I was angry at that man. But the anger only hurt me. Yes, I think he should have been punished. However, I think no one is beyond redemption. No one.

I guess we just have different outlooks.

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That said...

Trump should be impeached, even at the last minute.

The protesters who broke the law should be punished.

But I still think there is a bigger picture here.

If Jeff Bezos gave 150,000 to every single one of his employees, he would still be the second richest man in the world. I reserve my anger for things like that.

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So why did you write this here? Your argument is hardly an argument; it is simply a flaccid comment about a volatile situation into which you wish to insert your absurd observations about TV shows. Good job, for a three year old. Was that nice enough for you?

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Because I was hoping for a more intelligent rebuttal? I guess I can count you out.

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No, it was because you knew how to become the center of attention.

I am sorry that happened to 10-year old you, but your mention of it here is gratuitous and a slap in the face to the five who died (now six, possibly, as another officer has died, this one by suicide).

Congratulations on taking the conversation right into your own experiences, views, and trials/tribulations. You are a SuperTroll.

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Exactly what I've been thinking Rick. The more he's pushed at and put in a box the more he'll be on defensive until we get to that last day in office instead of planning and plotting something, feeling empowered.

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