Joe Sudbay, host of “State of the States” on SiriusXM Progress joined me on my SiriusXM program yesterday to talk about the Trump’s military occupation of DC, where he lives, and where he has experienced the intimidating, chilling atmosphere.
And we tried out something new. We did the interview live on Sirius XM and as a Substack Live. Something fun to try out, but of course we had some kinks to work out. For the first minute and a half or so, Joe couldn’t be heard on the Substack Live, while he could be heard on SiriusXM.
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But in short order we worked it out, and Joe could be heard on Substack. So just realize that, as I’m posting the conversation here. You won’t hear Joe at first, but will you hear Joe after the first couple of minutes—and it’s worth waiting for his take.
Always a great conversation and a lot of smart discussion about what’s happening in DC.
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