Wyoming man says just go to another state for an abortion
Wyoming man says just go to another state for an abortion
"You're fear-mongering!" Dustin called in to say. But he was stumped when I said the Supreme Court would soon allow bans on contraception
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This one got a little bit heated — mostly on my part, I admit — but I really just can’t deal with people saying the Supreme Court leaked draft decision doesn’t “ban” abortion, and that women can just go to another state for an abortion.
But that is what Dustin from Wyoming called into my SiriusXM program to say — starting off by saying “you’re really making me mad.” He also didn’t understand my assertion that states could ban contraception if the Supreme Court ruled that way, and stop contraception at states’ borders (He seemed to think I was talking about the U.S.-Mexico border, because I guess they’re all just obsessed with that border).
Why should anyone have to go to another state to exercise their rights? That’s the logical question, and I course I posed it. (And of course, some states, like Missouri, are now moving to ban women who reside in the state from getting abortions in other states.) But Dustin still felt states should decided.
Okay, then how would he feel if his sister were raped and forced to have the baby. Would he be okay with it, since most of the laws in states banning abortion have no exception for rape or incest, or, in some, even many medical emergencies? Suddenly, he thought there should be exemptions and, suddenly, he thought maybe the states shouldn’t decide.
I also asked how he’d like it if the Supreme Court allows bans on contraception — as this decision’s reasoning sets up, and some Republicans in states like Michigan have called for that to happen — which wold force Dustin would to drive out of state to get condoms.
Dustin was pretty stumped. He threw out insults, hemmed and hawed, deflected, laughed, asserted his rights as the “father” of a fetus that a woman might abort, claimed my hypotheticals — of which I put out a few others — were not realistic.
But he couldn’t answer the question.
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Wyoming man says just go to another state for an abortion
“Gilead” of Handmaids Tale, an authoritarian straight white patriarchal society of Christian professed faith, grab the pussy power and control everything. Dominion. 7 Mountains. Q. Anti-government as in anti-democracy, tyranny control by a minority over all. Gilead. Hopefully this is waking up the “electronically distracted” youth and also, looking back to 2016, the purists “oh, I don’t like this and that HRC so I’m not voting or I am switching around”. I am not a huge HRC fan, just pragmatic, was either her or off the charts narcissist/possible sociopath. Then 2020, Biden got 80+ million votes, the other got 70+ million votes, and here is the big time shame of a democracy totally taken for granted, 100+ million did not vote at all. I hope by now they see much more importance of a single vote added to a stack. I know “shoulda woulda coulda” 2016, but just imagine how much better off this nation would be right now, in terms of fewer COVID deaths and different Supreme Court appointments for just two items. Vlad the Pooty Poot knew he would have a much harder time going up against HRC’s experience, smarts and firm line. He wanted and groomed “the other”, likely for a decade+ Vlad was on the lookout for the type of personality to promote that his KGB 15 years of foreign intelligence psychology could manipulate in the palm of his hand. The 100M+ unmotivated, distracted and purists, I really hope by now see the weight of just one vote added to the stack. Take pride in the world’s oldest democracy, take part. Vote.
There’s two issues here and you kind of hit on them, does the women have a right to decide in reference to her own body, the other is when does life start.
The religious people want to force upon everybody else, via the government, the concept that a sperm in an egg is a baby, that’s the argument you should take to them. If they try to change the subject to an embryo ask them if life starts at conception? That’s what they claim. Make them talk about a sperm and an egg being a baby, they’d rather talk about near birth abortion, that isn’t really a thing except in horrible cases of Pregnancies gone wrong. They want to talk about things to drive emotions not logic.
We compromised with them 50 years ago and set it at 20 weeks the problem with religion, it never has enough, it will never compromise. If they compromise they’re planning to cheat or they’re lying. “ We’ll agree to 20 weeks! (until we can put a corrupt pig in the White House that will give us three corrupt judges)“
The idea that a sperm in an egg as a baby is absurd, it’s downright stupid, the question is, is from that point on when does a person start, I’m still perfectly happy with 20 weeks.
I also get tired with the states rights things never understood why tyranny of the federal government is any different than tyranny of a state government. If a state knows better than why can’t a county know better? States rights is a tactic of liars and crooks. Like the slave states that wanted states rights to keep their slaves, but didn’t want states rights when they wanted to force other states to return their slaves.