Caller says we need to stop this "'white supremacist' nonsense"
Nelson from South Carolina says calling the Proud Boys white supremacist is “one of the dumbest statements on earth”
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As we discussed the January 6th insurrection in recent days on my SiriusXM program, Nelson called in from South Carolina to say that describing the Proud Boys as white supremacist is “one of the dumbest statements on earth” and then, when pressed for an answer, said he “kind of” likes the Proud Boys.
But never once did he explain how they were not racist as I went through some of their beliefs and involvements.
Actually, Nelson didn’t really mount much of a defense of anything — he shifted to trying to ask me questions — and I had to call him on the carpet (or rather, call him a “lying piece of shit.”).
Some of these people think they can just call the show to hijack discussion and yet they have no facts, so they’re not very effective.
When I told Nelson the ideology of the groups like Proud Boys, Oath Keepers and other far-right extremist groups behind the January 6th attack, he attempted to shift to Black Lives Matter and Antifa. I think he was trying to claim they really were behind the January 6th insurrection — which we’ve heard from other conspiracy theorists on the right — but I didn’t let him go there. Nelson claimed not to even know what QAnon is, even though the Proud Boys organized with QAnon personalities for the January 6th attack.
Nelson was a white supremacist, I’m sure, and the only arguments that people like Nelson have now is whataboutism — and it never adds up. He eventually tried to go to what I call Charlottesville trutherism — recreating the facts of Charlottesville. That’s when I had to let him go.
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Caller says we need to stop this "'white supremacist' nonsense"
Michelangelo you did an excellent job countering this person's false narrative. I'm not sure where he is getting is info on the "7 groups" in Charlottesville but there were at least 7 and then many of the white supremacists that have been convicted of crimes from A11 and A12 were not with established groups those days, just inspired and invited by them to participate online. James Fields seems to be a loner from Ohio who marched with Patriot Front that day with others who have been convicted of terrorist activities but there is no evidence that they were associated with him before that day. Even the neo Nazis (3 of them) who testified at his trial said they only met him that day.
Also leading up to the 1/6 insurrection, Kyle Chapman aka based stick man, a multiple convicted felon, denounced the leader of the Proud Boys, Henri (Enrique) Tarrio calling him a token n*gro and later straight up calling him the n word. Since 1/6 as it has come to light that Tarrio is a long time FBI informant, Gavin Mcguines has also denounced Tarrio and seems to be resuming leadership in the group.
These people are playing a shell game trying to gaslight everyone as to who is what and what role they are playing. Facts are the Proud Boys are a neo fascist group who despite having non white members are aligned with hardcore white supremacists.
Facts also are the same individuals and groups including Proud Boys, Oath Keepers and IIIer's were present in Charlottesville on A11 and A12 and at the capitol insurrection on 1/6.
Thank you for doing a coherent takedown of this bad faith caller trying to sow disinformation. Watching the hearings so far on this and some of the bad analysis from MSM reports on this has been driving me crazy.
What a lying piece of garbage this Nelson character is. The Proud Boys founder Gavin McGinnis has said from the very beginning that they are a gang that will murder people and had used code phrases like "western chauvinism" as a dog whistle for their white supremacy. I've been following the goings on of this group via progressive Youtube channels since the very beginning. So Nelson can go fuck off with his Southern revisionist BS.